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The State University system spends $70 million a year on remediation — i.e. teaching incoming students what they needed to learn in high school to make them college-ready, but didn’t. And the students themselves have to spend time and money, usually borrowed, to take non-credit courses to get them up to snuff. It’s a waste, and SUNY Chancellor Nancy Zimpher wants to do something about it.

Ideally, that something would be to make sure ...

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February 21, 2013
4:30 p.m.

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I really think SUNY should not be spending much at all for remediation, especially not at its four-year colleges or University Centers. If a student is accepted and then fails to meet college-level work standards at one of these colleges, then let them fail and then perhaps re-apply to SUNY for admission after they've proven they can do the work. There's a real expensive lesson that needs to be learned here by a society that seems to try and shield its younger members from failure at any cost. Failure is simply part of the learning process and must be allowed to occur occassionally. Of course, if SUNY is admitting students that really can't do the work then that speaks volumes about their admissions process not working so well and they're not screening applicants closely enough to filter out those who are simply not prepared. That slot for an incoming freshman could've possibly gone to another student who really was ready for college-level work but was denied acceptance. Not everyone should go to college right out of High School either regardless if they are prepared or not. It's time we change that mainstream ideal because some people really do need to go do something else after they graduate from High School.

February 21, 2013
10:13 p.m.

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I would like The Gazette to provide a story and break down the 70 million figure. I have seen the 70 million figure about a dozen times in many newspaper articles. It sounds like the students who are paying for this instruction are somehow costing the school money by paying for remedial courses... Hmmm.

Please provide how many campuses provide remediation, in what form, how many instructors provide the instruction and what is the pay range of the instructors. 70 million sounds like a lot of money but I would like to learn how exactly the money is spent especially if that figure is going to result in yet another newspaper article about it and yet another exam for the students to take.

Please provide how much much SUNY "takes in" by students paying for remedial courses. Let's see if that 70 million figure we have been reading about so much holds up.

It is pretty funny if not sad that we need another test to determine what students know and what they don't. Can't the Regents Exams in their totality determine a level of proficiency and college readiness?

February 25, 2013
9:23 a.m.

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Test in sophomore year is the most positive proactive concept SED has broached possibly ever.