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Letters to the Editor Wednesday, Oct. 13

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Lies, propaganda keep covid war alive
America is at war, the deadliest war in our history against the most determined enemy.
And it’s not a war we can just call off like Afghanistan where “only” 2,218 have been killed.
Most recent data shows that over 703,000 of our fellow Americans have died so far in this war, and the numbers keep growing.
World War II, with about 405,000 dead, doesn’t even come close, although it hasn’t yet approached the 945,000 deaths between the North and South, most from non-combat causes, in the Civil War.
It even outstrips the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic, which took the lives of 655,000 Americans.
Like our Civil War, this one pits Americans against Americans.
But, unlike other wars, this one could be ended (and might already have been ended) without a bullet fired.
All we have to do to win this war is to get vaccinated and wear a mask. What is stopping us are the co-conspirators from within — the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers who are aiding and abetting the enemy.
Promulgating misinformation, claiming false religious concerns, selfishly asserting their “right” of personal freedom — these people are putting the rest of us at risk and prolonging this horrible war unnecessarily.
They tweet, march with signs and write letters to the editor which, if published, further spread the misinformation and fear.
Yes, we all have freedom of speech. But spreading proven falsehoods is not guaranteed in our Constitution.
Lies are not opinions. They are the propaganda of the enemy.
Richard W. Lewis, Jr.
Glenville

Editorial on Niskayuna audit went too far
When I stepped up to volunteer as the president of the Niskayuna School Board, I knew that my new role would open my actions up for greater scrutiny.
Yet I, and many of your readers who called me over the long holiday weekend, were horrified to see your Oct. 10 Sunday editorial (“Niskayuna school audit should be released”) compare me to a fictional pathological liar, Joe Isuzu, from 1980’s car commercials.
The visceral reaction of many to your disreputable editorial was very comforting.
Furthermore, the casual tone of your editorial demanding records that need to be reviewed and possibly redacted by our legal team be released “just for kicks” on a “Friday evening” before a long holiday weekend surprised me.
Niskayuna Board of Education Policy 3310 provides guidance for obtaining public records, and to be fair and equitable, I am insisting your newspaper, like everybody else, follow that policy.
To be fair, if we give your newspaper special treatment then we must give everybody special treatment thus, our policies mean nothing because the exception becomes larger than the rule.
I am always glad to see members of the media in the audience at our meetings and welcome media attention to our work, thoughtful analysis of our decisions and honest reporting.
I just ask that we be allowed to follow the law and our policy and not be maligned in your editorials for doing our job.
Kimberly Tully
Niskayuna
Editor’s Note: On Wednesday morning, the district acknowledged receipt of our FOIL request and said it would decide by Oct. 22 whether it would release or not release the audit to the public. 

 

Wondering who can now legally vote
I just read that voters can register online for the upcoming November election with a valid ID or New York state driver’s license. With undocumented immigrants being able to get a state driver’s license, what is to prevent them from voting?
John Morhous
Schenectady

Categories: Letters to the Editor, Opinion

36 Comments

BILL WEMPLE

You Cannot register to vote unless you are a US Citizen. Go online to NYS DMV Voter Registration and read the form yourself for voting requirements instead of posting BS Propaganda.

It’s sad that the Gazette chose to publish such a foolish letter. What was the purpose of publishing it? Does every submitted letter need to be committed to print? Couldn’t an editor’s note been added like in the previous letter, stating the truthful information and simple answer to the question? I appreciate opinions from all sides, but this one has me shaking my head.

Doug Hampton

The letter was a waste of space but he did ask the question at the end of his letter. He is primarily guilty of being lazy as Bill Wemple pointed out, it can be easily looked up. Of course ,if he did that, then he couldn’t get his pound of flesh as it were!

FRED BARNEY

Your point would have been effective if you established that it was not possible to ignore the citizenship requirement and register.

LOUIS RESTIFO

Richard W. Lewis, Jr., Thank you for your letter. ~ I’m in total agreement with you that we are fighting a war against a killer pandemic. This is a war that can be won. As you said; “All we have to do to win this war is to get vaccinated and wear a mask.”

Thank you Republicans, especially so Trump loyalists, for being the main enemy in winning this war:

Excerpt from an article in today’s Washington Post…
“The nationwide fight over coronavirus vaccine mandates gained intensity this week as top Republicans and their conservative allies escalated attacks on public health strategies aimed at curbing the pandemic…”

“The anti-mandate cause is becoming increasingly central to pro-Trump Republicans, with figures such as Abbott and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis loudly promoting it, a development that complicates President Biden’s efforts to fight the pandemic.”

What I don’t understand is why Biden’s covid approval rating is low when Republicans refuse to get the vaccine and fight about wearing masks. Why should republicans change their behavior when it hurts Biden? Unfortunately, that’s their goal. What ever happened to “doing for your country?”

Aren’t you two using a rather wide brush? I personally can guarantee you that all republicans are neither Trump supporters nor ‘antivaxxers’. Trump ‘loyalists’ are one thing, regular republicans are quite another.

LOUIS RESTIFO

Ok Yakcracker, let’s narrow the brush stroke down to a few specifics. When talking about the war on coronavirus compare Gavin Newsom’s tactical plan to that of Greg Abbott. Compare what Fox and MSMBS are saying regarding getting vaccinated and wearing masks.

As far as “Trump ‘loyalists’ are one thing, regular republicans are quite another”. Look at what happened to Liz Cheney, who in my opinion is one of the few surviving “regular Republicans”. Trump loyalists now are the new Republican Party.

William Marincic

I have never once heard anyone on Fox news say don’t get the vaccine, just the opposite. So either you watch Fox News or you’re just making up stories, if you are watching Fox News please tell me who and when they said don’t get the vaccine and please be specific..

LOUIS RESTIFO

Ok William again I say; Only what you want to hear, only what you want to see, only the way you want it to be, nothing else matters. Nothing.

All of the following is from a New York Times article
Published July 11, 2021
Updated Sept. 16, 2021

“Despite Outbreaks Among Unvaccinated, Fox News Hosts Smear Shots.”

“Months after Rupert Murdoch got a Covid-19 vaccine dose, one of his network’s stars, Tucker Carlson, called a Biden vaccination proposal “the greatest scandal in my lifetime.”

“Back in December, before the queen of England and the President elect of the United States had their turns, the media mogul Rupert Murdoch received a dose of a Covid-19 vaccine. Afterward, he urged everyone else to get it, too.”

“Since then, a different message has been a repeated refrain on the prime-time shows hosted by Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham on Mr. Murdoch’s Fox News Channel — a message at odds with the recommendations of health experts, even as the virus’s Delta variant and other mutations fuel outbreaks in areas where vaccination rates are below the national average.”

“Mr. Carlson, Ms. Ingraham and guests on their programs have said on the air that the vaccines could be dangerous; that people are justified in refusing them; and that public authorities have overstepped in their attempts to deliver them.”

“Mr. Carlson and Ms. Ingraham last week criticized a plan by the Biden administration to increase vaccinations by having health care workers and volunteers go door to door to try to persuade the reluctant to get shots.”

“Going door-to-door?” Ms. Ingram said. “This is creepy stuff.”

“Mr. Carlson, the highest-rated Fox News host, with an average of 2.9 million viewers, said the Biden plan was an attempt to “force people to take medicine they don’t want or need.” He called the initiative “the greatest scandal in my lifetime, by far.”

“Served up to an audience that is more likely than the general population to be wary of Covid vaccines, the remarks by Mr. Carlson and Ms. Ingraham echoed a now-common conservative talking point — that the government-led effort to raise vaccination rates amounted to a violation of civil liberties and a waste of taxpayer dollars.”

“The comments by the Fox News hosts and their guests may have also helped cement vaccine skepticism in the conservative mainstream, even as the Biden administration’s campaign to inoculate the public is running into resistance in many parts of the country.”

“Public health experts have said that a strong vaccination effort is critical for the United States to outrun the virus, which has killed more than four million people worldwide and continues to mutate.”

“The amplification of vaccine skepticism through conservative media channels could harden the reluctance of those who might otherwise have been persuaded to get a shot, said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a communications professor at the University of Pennsylvania.”

“If you have constant exposure to an outlet that is raising vaccination hesitancy, raising questions about vaccinations, that is something to anchor you in your position that says, ‘I’m not going to take the vaccine,’” Ms. Jamieson said….”

Bill, you’re mercifully oblivious to the dog-whistles, aren’t you?
And that’s just how your party wants you.

“This paper investigates the role of cable television news in vaccine skepticism and associated local vaccination rates in the United States. We find that, in the later stages of the vaccine roll-out (starting May 2021), higher local viewership of Fox News Channel has been associated with lower local vaccination rates.”
“Note: Funding: The project is funded internally at ETH Zurich, and there are no external funders to declare.
Declaration of Interests: We have no competing interests to declare.”

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3890340

LOUIS RESTIFO

Perhaps no one on Fox propaganda has said exactly “don’t get the vaccine”, but sure as the deaths caused anti-vaxxers, Fox certainly is undermining the cause.

LOUIS RESTIFO

In all likelihood that’s all we’ll hear from William Marincic today regarding this issue. He loves to punch then run away when what he says is solidly refuted.

William Marincic

Lou So the New York Times which had to walk back dozens of stories just recently told you that people on Fox said they don’t believe in vaccines, have you ever heard two sides of a story? That’s probably what fair and balanced means they have two opposing opinions, that doesn’t mean they support either one. But you pick the narrative that you want, not that you won’t anyways.

Fact:
The New York Times has not had to “walk back dozens of articles”. Like any responsible form of media they acknowledge their errors when called out. Even Fox has done this. Once, I think.

Fact:
Vaccines have been literally a lifesaver for humanity. Some may deny this but it’s their opinion versus facts. That doesn’t make ‘two sides of the story’. Facts are facts. They save lives, by the billion.
You’ve picked a “narrative”, most have picked facts.
Good luck with that.

Yakcracker, of course you are correct, but a high percentage of Republicans still support 45 who gives muddled messages. Texas and Florida governors (R) are not even allowing businesses to decide for themselves if they’ll require vaccines or masks. Jim Jordan of Ohio (R) is stating that NO vaccines should be required. It’s mainly the gop who are screaming about THEIR rights and liberties and refuse to do what’s best for ALL of us. Unfortunately, this has become politicized so Americans need to take sides…wasting precious time and progress to get this pandemic under control once and for all.

I’ve posted this before, but here it for a friendly reminder.
The GOP has literally enshrined Trump into it’s platform, by name. Literally:

RESOLUTION REGARDING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY PLATFORM

WHEREAS, The RNC, had the Platform Committee been able to convene in 2020, would have undoubtedly unanimously agreed to reassert the Party’s strong support for President Donald Trump and his Administration;
WHEREAS, The media has outrageously misrepresented the implications of the RNC not adopting a new platform in 2020 and continues to engage in misleading advocacy for the failed policies of the Obama-Biden Administration, rather than providing the public with unbiased reporting of facts; and
WHEREAS, The RNC enthusiastically supports President Trump and continues to reject the policy positions of the Obama-Biden Administration, as well as those espoused by the Democratic National Committee today; therefore, be it

RESOLVED, That any motion to amend the 2016 Platform or to adopt a new platform, including any motion to suspend the procedures that will allow doing so, will be ruled out of order.
https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/docs/Resolution_Platform_2020.pdf

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So maybe ALL Republicans are not Trump supporters, but the party has made him (crowned him?) the face of the party. And if you’re a Republican who doesn’t go along with that, you political career (and maybe more) is ended.

The GOP are the loyalists.

If they want to die and kill off their own base, that’s fine with me. But it’s ridiculous to hold Biden responsible for these idiots when he has done everything he could to get past this pandemic.
If Americans can’t come together to beat a pandemic, then I’m sad to say there will be nothing that will unite us.

FRED BARNEY

Perhaps you should check your assumptions. Unless you shop at the Salvation Army and do not have to by gas you have had to deal with a considerable about of inflation. Some people are troubled by the question of how we can be said that we have a country in view of our open Southern border.

FRED BARNEY

I see that you have a solid grasp of the trivial but the importance of the substantive still alludes you.

LOUIS RESTIFO

I admit to also not being the best with spelling and punctuation, but at least I know what a talking about.

FRED BARNEY

“… 945,000 deaths between the North and South, most from non-combat causes, in the Civil War.”

It seems that the decedents of the victims of our war of liberation are owed reparations

FRED BARNEY

From your lack of comment I assume that you have no problem with reparations to the descendants of the victims of the war for Black liberation. As a Democrat you should have no trouble with the principle that the living are accountable for the consequences of the actions of the long dead.

P.S. thanks for establishing that my comment was read by at least one person

Doug Hampton

Thanks for at least not calling me a lefty….You guys just love to categorize everyone in a nice little box. Must make you feel better. I am not a Democrat either. Remember what is said about assuming!

Richard W. Lewis, Jr. I’m kind of curious why the government doesn’t release the data on natural immunity we’re every study I’ve seen out of Israel says that natural immunity is better immunity than the vaccination.

Doug Hampton that’s funny because it’s the Democrats that put everyone in a box, they put them in boxes by color, they put them in boxes by income, they put them in boxes by religion and politics that’s the Democrat wait divide and conquer.

Doug Hampton

First of all I was merely pointing out, that at least on this forum, the folks from the right tend to be the ones doing the labeling. I have been on here only a short time and I have been labeled “lefty”, I have been called a Democrat ,and “liberal” of which I am neither of the 3. I haven’t seen any of the posters that oppose Trump do any name calling what so ever. They tend to use wit, logic, and have facts and evidence to support their claims. It is Trump himself that makes up obnoxious and rude nicknames for anyone that confronts or opposes him, just not seeing that from anyone on the left or middle. Furthermore, what you are referring to is demographics (religion, income, race, ethnicity) and that is used every day by both sides. If you think the Democrats have a monopoly on that, you are simply mistaken. ALL campaigns and political programs are based on all the items you mentioned.

Dearest Zachary. Will you need that information served to you on a fine silver platter? Or do you think you could find your way to the CDC website and find it yourself? I found it on my first search. You can too.
Or is it more important to recite your well-worn grievance points?

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