GOP is far removed from party of Lincoln
From WDGJ to Fox, right wing media uses the derogatory term RINO to describe any Republican who isn’t loyal to Trump in an attempt to purge them from this new “party of Lincoln,” which is no longer bound by their oath to “…support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s claim that his is “the party of Lincoln” is intended to reinforce public belief in its legitimacy as a major political party.
But when the first Republican president waged a civil war to preserve the Union, while the last Republican president incited an insurrection to destroy that Union, it’s time to ask at long last whether McCarthy has any sense of decency.
Today’s Republican Party, though purportedly a political party, is no longer “the party of Lincoln.” It is, in fact, an instrumentality of a conspiracy to overthrow the government of the United States. The real RINOs are the traitors who violated their oath of office, pledged allegiance to an unstable authoritarian, embraced the Big Lie and belong to a political party with a fascist ideology that threatens our national security.
John Pagoda
Rensselaer
Silly signage leaves a visitor guessing
Here’s a silly letter to start 2022.
If you drive to Schenectady on Route 5 from Scotia (part of the town of Glenville), the sign on the Western Gateway Bridge reads, “Glenville.”
Every other community in the universe posts a sign as you enter. So presumably “Glenville” is one of those river islands one can see on the river below.
No wait, you can’t see because the bridge builders blocked our view going in that direction.
Now reverse course and drive from Schenectady to Scotia on Route 5 over the same Western Gateway Bridge. Now you are greeted with a sign that says, “Rotterdam.”
At least now you can see the river below, but where is Rotterdam? It’s not the city of Schenectady I just left, nor is it the town of Scotia I just entered. One wonders where Glenville and Rotterdam are.
Larry Lewis
Glenville
Paper needs more balanced coverage
In a truly unbiased newspaper, the news stories would be just that – news stories, who, what, where, when, why, and how.
The Op-Ed pages would be divided evenly between conservative and liberal viewpoints.
Unfortunately, that isn’t currently the case with The Gazette.
When you switched over from the New York Times and Washington Post to the Associated Press, I was hoping for a return to impartial reporting. Instead, it’s just as bad, if not worse.
There’s no reason to add needless adjectives and adverbs to the news stories, such as “Trump FALSELY claims…”, or “…the DEBUNKED claim involving Hunter Biden’s laptop…” One from October really rankled me “…he joined lawmakers pushing UNSUPPORTED THEORIES ABOUT COVID-19 IMMUNITY.”
That would be natural immunity, which appears to be scientifically accepted in every country in the world except one.
The proper way to deal with this is as follows: “Trump claims …, however, John Doe from [agency XYZ] says that …” You can then add a quote from the other side if needed. The only time you should add an adverb to the story is if the claim is 100% false, like claiming that the Earth is flat, or that the Sun revolves around it. Your Op-Ed pages are at least 10-1 in favor of radical Democrats. How about bringing that down to 5-1 or lower? You shouldn’t have to wait a week to read a column from the conservative viewpoint. Also, how about nixing all editorials that refuse to distinguish between illegal and legal immigration?
Kenneth Truman
Albany
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Digging through the manure so you don’t have to…
Mike Lindell Calls Fans Impatient for Trump Reinstatement ‘Bots and Trolls’
On his Thursday livestream, Lindell lashed out at “bots” and “trolls” on his Facebook page who “are growing increasingly restless awaiting Donald Trump’s reinstatement as president, as an endless stream of self-imposed deadlines touted by the pillow executive has come and gone,” the Daily Beast reported.
According to Lindell, people have been interrupting his Facebook Live broadcasts with comments like, “Mike, you keep making promises. I don’t see Donald Trump.”
“You guys, those are bots and trolls!” Lindell railed, calling them “relentless.”
“Any real person out there would know we are doing everything we can!” he said.
Referring to his promises of Trump’s reinstatement, Lindell continued: “I’m just optimistic everybody, because I’ll tell you what, it’s going to happen. We have truth on our side, God’s on our side, this is a battle of good and evil.”
And the “pillow salesman” is so mentally ill that he can’t tell good from evil. What a motley group of Jerks Trump, clown-in-Chief surrounded himself with. Unbelievable. Three names popped into my mind as I typed the last sentence: Lewandowski, Giuliani, Gates. More: Cruz, Hawley, Gohmert, Gosar, Boebert. Good night; I have to go to bed!
And as a legendary radio voice used say, “Here’s the rest of the story…”
It’s worth a read if anyone wants to try to understand what these people see as reality.
Much more linkage in the posting.
https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/52196/are-young-liberal-women-more-likely-to-have-a-mental-health-condition
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…Your first source claims “A 2020 Pew Research study reveals that over half of white, liberal women have been diagnosed with a mental health condition at some point.” The author bases this not a Pew document itself, but on a Twitter thread by political science graduate student Zach Goldberg, who describes himself as a “Wokeness Studies scholar”.
The source in question is a Pew Research Center American Trends Panel (ATP) survey conducted March 19 to March 24, 2020, in the early weeks of the covid-19 pandemic “to understand how Americans are continuing to respond to the coronavirus outbreak.” This isn’t a random telephone survey, but a Pew effort to track changes among a generally static, broadly representative group of participants. Each year the participants are sent survey questions; this year 11,537 people from the pool responded via web surveys or the wireless tablets they were provided.
Several questions asked directly about the developing pandemic, such as how closely the respondent had been following the news, whether they had prayed about the outbreak, and what they thought the government should do in response.
The last question was “Has a doctor or other healthcare provider EVER told you that you have a mental health condition?” According to Pew, 18% of respondents indicated “yes.”
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ChuckD, Thanks for the above post. I chose to ignore W’s ridiculous post about the higher incidence of mental health issues among liberals because of its transparent absurdity but finding out the true nature of the “studies and surveys” is enlightening.
William won’t read it in all likelihood and if he does I am certain he will not respond to your FACTUAL presentation.
Last line: That’s why progressives think the way they do and are more left than liberals.
I can give many more reasons to people who need them: on demand.
Fact: During and after the Trump administration our country has been divided more than at any time since the civil war.
No other administration has caused the chaos that the Trump administration has caused.
Some dispute the fact that African-Americans have been mistreated to varying degrees, from slavery to being forced to sit in the back of the bus and use inferior public facilities, bathrooms, water fountains etc. Or they want to ignore the fact.
Loud mouths from the white Christian Nationalist Church movement, favored by one of Trump’s top co-conspirators, Michael Flynn, is tearing families and our country apart.
Does anyone who participates in this forum see themselves in the above description?
That’s why progressives think the way they and are more left than liberals.
From my post above and I feel the same way that’s why I’m no longer a Democrat.
I am constantly trying to figure out why liberals/Democrats think the way they do and believe in such destructive policies that tear our families and society apart.
https://wbckfm.com/new-pew-study-white-liberals-mental-problems/
Yes, we should all tune in to “Talk with Renk” for all the news (just talk really) that matters.
Sadly the Pew study he refers to, and so many pinheads believe, doesn’t seem to exist. But since Renk (and more importantly, Tucker!) say it’s so, that’s good enough for their reality.
Maybe it was a Dark Study, hidden from the hapless liberals?
Another fail, Marincic. It must really suck to be a Republican.
For me especially now this works.
“Science is not the truth. Science is finding the truth. When science changes its opinion, it didn’t lie to you. It learned more.”
Consider how medical science has evolved, in cancer treatment, to organ transplants and orthopedic implants etc. I imagine current methods will all be considered barbaric 50 years from now.
Of course one aspect of science that we shouldn’t believe is man pushing the envelope on climate change. That’s all just all a bunch of poppycock.
One too many alls. I’m getting slap happy. Good night.
+1
William I only post factual information ..The New York times and political are good sources ….They actually cited provisions in the program …It holds mostly true that a Republican program will most likely help the rich no matter what its called ..If you like please post hard data where Opportunity Zones helped people in mass in low income zones and poverty zones …The program was passed in 2017 and I neither heard or read where it was a big success. Like I said it’s just read meat for the always Trumpers to flaunt with no actual data to back it up
Guy….Take it as a win! When they start questioning your information source , you know that’s all that’s left in the tank!. Best you will get!
This is BIG NEWS.
After December 31, 2021, the CDC will withdraw the emergency use authorization of the PCR test for COVID-19 testing. The CDC finally admitted the test does not differentiate between the flu and COVID virus.
https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html
Scientists, unlike some people on this site, ACKNOWLEDGE their mistakes and learn from them. They don’t cling to erroneous beliefs because of some false sense of pride. It is part of critical, logical, fact based thinking. Try it some time.
What you decided to use to defame the CDC increases my respect for them and diminishes my respect for your opinions, if that is possible.
So what? Unless I’m missing something, it seems apparent the CDC IS attempting a change to smarter, more broad ranged testing.
Level: Laboratory Alert
After December 31, 2021, CDC will withdraw the request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel, the assay first introduced in February 2020 for detection of SARS-CoV-2 only. CDC is providing this advance notice for clinical laboratories to have adequate time to select and implement one of the many FDA-authorized alternatives.
Visit the FDA website for a list of authorized COVID-19 diagnostic methods. For a summary of the performance of FDA-authorized molecular methods with an FDA reference panel, visit this page.
In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. Such assays can facilitate continued testing for both influenza and SARS-CoV-2 and can save both time and resources as we head into influenza season. Laboratories and testing sites should validate and verify their selected assay within their facility before beginning clinical testing.
Did you read what you posted?
Or maybe a large number of those positive Covid tests were not positive after all and this mask mandate and shut down is another unneeded thing being forced on us.
I guess the over 800,000 American deaths were faked also.
And these vaccinations too, right? What a waste!
You’ve sure shown us that you know a scam when you see one.
Sharpest knife in the drawer!
Geez Lou, that’s a whole lotta sciency wordy stuff! How’s a right-winger supposed to get through that!
I’ll wait to see what Laura says tonight. She’ll know what to think.
That’s a copy paste from the link HE put up. I really don’t believe he understands it. I apologize for not stating the source or having quotation marks.
Just as the virus is evolving, so is the science and and various methods of fighting it. At least that’s how I see it, if I’m wrong please enlighten me.
You must be absolutely beside yourself!
Every medical fail is a win for your side!
Makes complete sense.
When I say Liberalism is a mental disorder I now have the proof to back it up. I hear crickets on those two posts.
William, I suspect the crickets you hear are in your head; everyone is responding to your posts with detailed and accurate facts and some much deserved innuendo.
“If you have anything different then show it or be quiet, there is already enough bull on this page by you….”
Really Lou. More insults. It’s not my fault that I posted fact. Liberalism really is a mental disorder. Prove me wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still don’t know how “Opportunity Zones” have ever helped anyone in mass. Ive read several articles in the NYT that all it is a windfall for the rich. Opportunity zones were created in 2017 to allow wealthy investors to avoid the federal capital gains tax by reinvesting their profits in funds that invest in designated census tracts that are high poverty or low income, or next door to a tract that meets those standards. Politico says Opportunity zones were created in 2017 to allow wealthy investors to avoid the federal capital gains tax by reinvesting their profits in funds that invest in designated census tracts that are high poverty or low income, or next door to a tract that meets those standards. And were invested in areas that were already on the upswing anyway…All this is another Trump Myth that they like to repeat instead of doing real research on
Why not get your information from Conservative sites like I get mine from liberal sites like Politico and CNN I do to prove a point to you?
And I’ve had to swat this down before, maybe from one of the other ones.
How about Pew Trusts? Is that acceptable? Not likely after you read it:
“Black Businesses Largely Miss Out on Opportunity Zone Money”.
“Opportunity zones work by giving people and corporations a series of capital gains tax breaks for investing in opportunity funds, which then invest in zones, and holding those investments over time.
Congress applied the opportunity zone tax break to a wide range of investments, from factories and hotels to superyacht marinas. Lawmakers imposed no additional requirements, such as job creation targets, in order to encourage investors to move as much money as possible into low-income areas.”
“So far, opportunity zone investors appear to be focused on market-rate real estate such as luxury apartments and hotels. They’ve largely steered clear of affordable housing deals, businesses in need of an equity partner, or other investments that help the community but have a small or uncertain return, according to a report released last week by the Urban Institute, a Washington, D.C., think tank.”
It has been an interesting day today and I am being very kind. We may have hit an all time low of BS! I did get a good laugh at “says you” and all that jibberish directed at Lou! Again quite a day!
There are at least three reasons as to why I actually like this post that William earlier put up.
William Marincic
December 30th, 2021
Lou you can never tell the truth, I know that lying is a trait of most democrats but you overuse it. I have always said I was a rabid liberal up until 2000 when I became a conservative. If you have anything different then show it or be quiet, there is already enough bull on this page by you lefties.
Firstly, saying “Lou you can never tell the truth” exemplifies the absolute ridiculousness of so many of his statements. Two plus two equals four, I just said it and it’s the truth.
Secondly, I got a chuckle when he referred to himself as once being “a rabid liberal”. I now believe him to be a “rabid” conservative, and what immediately came to mind was the number 2 definition: (of an animal) affected with rabies.
Thirdly, if anyone becomes upset with the many redundant, Fox parroted comments William continually posts, all one need say are his own words back at him: “If you have anything different then show it or be quiet, there is already enough bull on this page by you….”
Rabid liberal, like you and the rest of the Gazette View sounding board.
I can’t help but to laugh at today’s postings…I see panic posting when they are cornered to answer factual posts …God Bless America
Not on the big issues, not when it came to censure and taking away committee leadership.
Thanks for all the work ChuckD, very informative and interesting. Frightening too.
Tx, but not a lot of work. I’ve been on the internet since the late 1980s and by now it’s an extension of my brain.
I lived through the Smokey and the Bandit, everyone’s-a-CB-radio-star (with the appropriate Southern tongue) years, and that foreshadowed our future with the internet. I knew that we’d go through some painful growing pains as it became incorporated into our daily lives, especially when the WWW was invented, although 30 years ago that future was just an amorphous swampy blob on the horizon. The white papers of the time from Berners-Lee (iirc, published in Wired magazine) on this hypertext markup language (HTML) then were a real mind-blower once you grasped the implications. We take it for granted now, but us older guys remember the pre-internet world, and younger people now cannot grasp the difference. And older people late to the game are at once confused, and overly-emboldened. This was, still is, a civilization-changing event underlying all the other civilization-changing events, and we’re in the midst of it. Frogs, leaches and all.
(and how I regret not investing in that small start-up named Microsoft when I had the chance)
Firstly, the modern self-identified strain of ‘liberalism’ is explicitly correlated with mental illness. Studies of the mentally ill have found that they tend to vote less conservative and more liberal (Howard and Anthony, 1977; Kelly, 2014) . One paper, for example, found that 78 percent of mental illness outpatients in Germany preferred liberal political candidates, compared to just 56 percent of the general public. More recently, Kirkegaard (2020) analyzed the General Social Survey data and found that extreme liberals had a 150 percent increase in the rate of mental illness compared to moderates. Conservatives — even extreme conservatives — were 17 percent and 24 percent less likely than moderates, respectively, to have been diagnosed with mental illness. Meanwhile, Pew Research Center’s March 2020 American Trends Panel Survey similarly showed that 38 percent of ‘very liberal’ whites have been told by a doctor that they have a mental health condition (compared to 20 percent of moderates and 15 percent of the ‘very conservative’).
https://spectatorworld.com/life/liberalism-really-mental-illness/
It’s pretty clear you have no idea what “science” means…
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Exclusive: Ex-Cambridge Analytica psychologist secretly aided prominent anti-COVID vaccine group. Leaked chat logs detail efforts to influence elected leaders.
Mikael Thalen
Published Jul 30, 2021 Updated Aug 4, 2021, 11:45 am CDT
Leaked chat logs reveal how the former lead psychologist for Cambridge Analytica has been working behind the scenes with a notorious anti-vaccine group in the U.K.
The chat records, provided to the Daily Dot by the activist collective DDoSecrets, detail efforts by HART (Health Advisory and Recovery Team), a self-described “group of highly qualified UK doctors, scientists, economists, psychologists and other academic experts,” to influence politicians on issues related to COVID-19. The leak, as first reported by Logically on Tuesday, involves tens of thousands of chat messages stretching back to January before the group’s official launch. Held over the messaging platform Rocket.Chat, the communications highlight a stark contrast between HART’s public attempts to portray itself professionally and some of its members’ conspiratorial views.
HART’s official website currently lists more than 40 members. Yet some of the most influential and active participants in HART’s chats are not publicly acknowledged by the group. The leaked messages also show how HART sought to conceal the involvement of those who might be deemed controversial.
Since the beginning of the chats, Patrick Fagan—who is not acknowledged on the website as part of HART—has had a role in shaping HART’s messaging. A behavioral scientist whose work utilizes psychology to influence people’s actions, Fagan is currently the chief scientific officer at the behavioral science consultancy group Capuchin. The company relies on “psychometrics, implicit testing, eye-tracking, facial coding, EEG” and other methods to increase revenue streams for businesses.
In a manifesto shared with the group in early January, Fagan argues that behavioral science has an ethics problem: “I should know: I was formerly the Lead Psychologist at Cambridge Analytica, and I’ve since worked for tobacco companies, gambling sites, and voter deterrence campaigns.”
Fagan’s paper, titled “Pushing Back against the Nudges,” announces the launch of a “Counter-Nudge Unit” designed to push back on government messaging regarding the pandemic.
“For the uninitiated, nudging is the idea of using psychological principles to give people a gentle bump in the right direction, rather than forcing compliance,” Fagan writes. The leaked messages appear to indicate that several chat rooms were set up in the wake of Fagan’s paper with names such as “Nudge” and “Psych ops.” The Nudge room, according to screenshots of its description, involves “strategy materials to effect change in public beliefs / behaviour.”
The “Psych ops” channel seems to have later been changed to “persuasion” after members expressed concerns that the group would look hypocritical if it appeared to be “using covert strategies which we have critiqued the ‘other side’ for.”
A second user concurred, noting the potential fallout that could ensue if a leak exposed the channel’s name.
“I would agree,” the user said. “Especially just in case of leak/hack, and maybe merge ‘nudge’ with this channel e.g. delete that and put everything in here?”
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https://www.dailydot.com/debug/leaked-chats-ex-cambridge-analytica-patrick-fagan-hart-group/
What does Cambridge analytical have to do with anything?
Yeah, that’s what I predicted.
But don’t try to learn about it, that might hurt.
So the bottom line is that a liberal tried to game the system but he himself got gamed because the info went to Trump so he got mad and became a whistleblower instead. What am I missing, it wasn’t the conservatives that went to CA to get the info.
So then you learned that the $100k was just a pilot project that was never brought online. And yes it was paid for by Liberals…Canadian Liberals but never used “in production” and sold to the Trump people (for lack of a more civil term for them).
The Guardian refers to him as the “Cambridge Analytica whistleblower”.
As he himself claims, “he was the gay Canadian vegan who somehow ended up creating ‘Steve Bannon’s psychological warfare mindf*** tool'”.
I don’t want to know whatever your point is. It sounds like you’re calling everything you see and fear “Liberal” which is different from other days when everything you fear is “socialist”, or “communist”.
You’re like 0 for 37 today, and not much better over the long run.
The Liberal Caucus Research Bureau paid $100,000 in 2016 to the man at the heart of an international scandal over the mining of private information of 50 million Facebook users. But what exactly did Christopher Wylie do for them?
Explosive reports rippled out around the world over the weekend, after Canadian data scientist Christopher Wylie came forward to reveal a voter profiling firm he helped establish called Cambridge Analytica had accessed the personal information of millions of Facebook users without their consent.
Then the info was given to the Trump campaign. You forgot in your story who paid for it
You outdo your own ignorance every day here. How in the world have you made it this far in life I’ll never understand.
By Patrick Fagan
Patrick Fagan is a behavioural scientist author, lecturer and practitioner; previously Lead Psychologist at Cambridge Analytica, he is now the co-founder of Capuchin Behavioural Science.
Do you have any effing idea who Cambridge Analytica is? I’m betting you don’t.
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In March 2018, multiple media outlets broke news of Cambridge Analytica’s business practices. The New York Times and The Observer reported that the company had acquired and used personal data about Facebook users from an external researcher who had told Facebook he was collecting it for academic purposes. Shortly afterwards, Channel 4 News aired undercover investigative videos showing Nix boasting about using prostitutes, bribery sting operations, and honey traps to discredit politicians on whom it conducted opposition research, and saying that the company “ran all of (Donald Trump’s) digital campaign”. In response to the media reports, the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) of the UK pursued a warrant to search the company’s servers. Facebook banned Cambridge Analytica from advertising on its platform, saying that it had been deceived. On 23 March 2018, the British High Court granted the ICO a warrant to search Cambridge Analytica’s London offices. As a result, Nix was suspended as CEO, and replaced by Julian Wheatland.
The personal data of up to 87 million Facebook users were acquired via the 270,000 Facebook users who used a Facebook app called “This Is Your Digital Life.” By giving this third-party app permission to acquire their data, back in 2015, this also gave the app access to information on the user’s friends network; this resulted in the data of about 87 million users, the majority of whom had not explicitly given Cambridge Analytica permission to access their data, being collected. The app developer breached Facebook’s terms of service by giving the data to Cambridge Analytica.
On 1 May 2018, Cambridge Analytica and its parent company SCL filed for insolvency proceedings and closed operations. Alexander Tayler, a former director for Cambridge Analytica, was appointed director of Emerdata on 28 March 2018. Rebekah Mercer, Jennifer Mercer, Alexander Nix and Johnson Chun Shun Ko [zh], who has links to American businessman Erik Prince, are in leadership positions at Emerdata. The Russo brothers are producing an upcoming film on Cambridge Analytica. In 2019 the Federal Trade Commission filed an administrative complaint against Cambridge Analytica for misuse of data. In 2020, the British Information Commissioner’s Office closed a three-year inquiry into the company, concluded that Cambridge Analytica was “not involved” in the 2016 Brexit referendum and found no additional evidence for Russia’s alleged interference during the campaign. US sensitive polling and election data however were passed to Russian Intelligence via a Cambridge Analytica contractor Sam Patten and Konstantin Kilimnik who was indicted during the affair.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Analytica#Data_scandal
Huh?
Just posting some studies.
The real mental health issue that I wonder about is why you seem to willingly, daily post things here that are false and trying to pass it off as “science”.
Is there something in your background that drives you to seek humiliation? You don’t seem to have found it yet. Maybe it’s tied to that self-flagellation thing some Christians are prone to do?
I think evangelical Christianity’s main purpose is to create mindless robots who will believe anything. If I can get you to accept evangelical Christian beliefs, I can get you to believe anything. The moral teachings of Jesus Christ are most important to Christians who use their religion to help the downtrodden. They concentrate on the 8 beatitudes, not raising money to keep their pastor in expensive suits and in possession of a 54 million dollar jet. Poor fools.
Uhm, I think it’s you who has a problem discerning what’s credible and what’s not. You’ve repeatedly demonstrated you don’t know.
Do you think we’re responding to you this way just because we hate you? I don’t know you, I can’t hate you. But I’m sure as hell not going to tolerate someone blasting out the trash you do (which likely echos what you hear elsewhere) without pushing back. Especially when it goes against what this country stands for and serves to undermine it.
Freedom of speech goes many different ways, pal.
I don’t know, did you read the articles or do they go against your way of thinking so they really are not true? Someone has a problem with facts and it’s not me.
You know, follow the science
I’m growing more and more convinced you’re really a 12 to 14 year old boy. No grownup “reasons” or “debates” with the mentality you display here. Or you must think everyone’s a stooge like your little friends.
BTW, I was a member of the communist party up until 1889, then I became an alt-right ultra conservative for a whole bunch more years until this Monday past, I think, but then I determined they did not have my best interest anymore. Now I’m a liberal democrat…Therefore, making any statement I blurt out to be far more credible than anything anyone else could possibly say. Got it!
Oh, and if you don’t agree with what I just said, Guy, I’m begging you please don’t respond.
Lou you can never tell the truth, I know that lying is a trait of most democrats but you overuse it. I have always said I was a rabid liberal up until 2000 when I became a conservative. If you have anything different then show it or be quiet, there is already enough bull on this page by you lefties.
You’re still rabid even though you gave up liberalism. “Rabid”, your word, not mine.
I like what Lou said; it was very funny and hope he keeps posting.
Yep, you’re right, I actually believe I was a communist until 1891.
BTW, please give me a “truthful” answer. Did you believe you just insulted me? Simple answer, yes or no.
1891 with that belief you are impossible to disparage than you have done to yourself.
No I just told you a truth, take it or leave it.
William,
To ChuckD’s answer add you joined the party that bought us Afghanistan, Iraq, housing crash, and almost crashing the economy, tea party, no immigration solution, no infrastructure bill, tried to kill health care for the many (failed thanks to one of those RINO’s) to name a few. But you guys did get a deficit add of 2 trillion or so with tax cuts. Please name your accomplishments that would overshadow these great accomplishments your party did.
The housing bubble crash, right. two words, Barney Frank.
BTW, I was a liberal democrat up until the year 2000 when I realized they were for criminals over victims and they did not have my best interests anymore. They were too liberal.
We all know this and you are 12.5% African American. But you still didn’t respond to my question. How is GWB ,Kasich,Cheney and her “ilk” responsible for AOC , Pressley, and Omar’s presence as Congresspersons? I am dying to know….literally never heard this connection before now.
Doug you must have trouble seeing, see a doctor. I already posted it above.
Good answer Bill! “Says you” is a powerful rebuttal. You never gave ChuckD a reasoned, fact based answer to his question concerning GWB’s ties to A.O.C. and other terrible people trying to help those in need instead of the obscenely wealthy; Oh no, I’m going to get a “Says you”.
I don’t have to explain anything to any of you people you are already set in your ways. I’ve given you proof that liberalism is a mental disorder but what did I get insults, what did I expect insults. Why don’t you start explaining stuff to me when you post nonsense and that’s all you do post is nonsense anti-trump, January 6, this conservatives fake news is Fox news I’m so sick of hearing the same old thing. You’re a bunch of yentas on the Gazette version of the view standing in an echo chamber patting each other on the back.
Exactly….To be fair it’s either that or admitting that he was wrong. Now we know that won’t ever happen. If this was a boxing match , he’d be down for the count:)
That’s your answer. Teachers would give you at best an incomplete! The truth is that you have no answer because there is zero correlation to a Congresswomen(Cheney) who voted 92% of the time with your God (Trump) and the victorious elections of 3 Democratic Congresswomen who you and your “ilk” don’t like. Kasich, as one example,was a key ally with your other God (Ronny Reagan) and now he is a bum! No the answer is that Cheney, Kasich, Bush all have 1 thing in common….They all don’t support DJTJ! Period !!!
Perhaps you could try to improve the public discussion by offering substantive comments in lieu of insults
Fred, William, so easy to confuse.
Fred you forgot na, na, na, na, na.
Says you.
So you joined the party supported by all the White Nationalist domestic terrorist groups?
Well played.
I’m a member of the party of the truth, justice, and conservative values. You are of the party of criminals, lying, cheating, and killing babies.
“the party of the truth, justice, and conservative values.” Talk about an oxymoron.
I notice you left out “American Way” from your Superman quote. Freudian slip: You think of Trump as Superman but you secretly know he is not pursuing the “American Way” but conservative values, like a one-party dictatorship.
I think he just called us some terrible names. I’m really hurt!
William Marincic
November 22nd, 2021
…Where did you come up with that and by the way I am a person of color.
Aha, the truth finally presented. We are true brotheren Chuck, I too am a Smurf.
Wow, you must feel just awful Chuck now that you’ve undisputedly been exposed as a racist. /S of course.
All Democrats are, Lou. That’s why all the people of color (the real ones anyway) side with us; because they know we’re the real oppressors.
Makes perfect sense.
/S
We have Black Nationalist groups, but you have a problem with White ones.
Mr Truman, Don’t read the DG. Try NYP the Hunter, Hunter foreign owned source cited by some posters on here.
LOUIS RESTIFO, Excellant recovery.
Don’t ask me how the above empty post, short of an apostrophe, ended up on the forum, but regardless it makes more sense than some of Fred’s.
Louis, I might add it makes more sense than some LTE and some posts by the usual suspects from the alternate world of facts and truth. Remember Kelly Ann Conway’s famous answer to the truth? “Alternate facts” We read that every day on this forum.
All great conversations today (excluding some)and it’s only noon.
John Pagoda wrong again. A RINO has nothing to do with Trump, it’s a Lisa Murkowski that sides with democrats more than Republicans. Nice try though. You realize that Trump is not our President right now, right?
William….How many times can 1 person be wrong in a given day? RINO….Republican In Name Only….I have been called it a thousand times….you guys love labels! It’s not limited to your example and yes it’s not related to Trump per se but it’s meaning extends further out than your definition. Basically the party didn’t want nor need any Moderate or Liberal Republicans (both politicians and members). Think about it , guys like John Kasich and GWB were 2 examples of politicians that were very popular in the R party at one time ….now banished as traitors! You should know better than anyone…the R party # 1 rule….Thou shall not go against any fellow Republicans…as the party moved further to the right, guys like me and Scarborough, Kasich,GWB and many many others had no choice but to leave and as we went out the door it was nothing but RINO’s being said. You guys can’t live without name calling and labels! The tent got really small.
When warmongers like Bush and company lay down and allow liberal democrats to rule the roost they have to go. It’s because of Kasich and Bush and Cheney and their ilk that we have Omar, AOC, and Pressley.
First you are changing the argument. But I will go along for fun….Please explain how Kasich , Bush, Cheney and their “ilk” brought us Omar, AOC , and Pressley. I have never heard this before. I am so curious to know how this happened.
They did it by going further left than right and the whole democrat party shifted left. Do you believe John or Bobby Kennedy would be democrats today?
Explain why Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are considered Rinos even though they have consistently supported the Republican agenda with one exception, refusing to support the lies and desperate attempts of a wannabe dictator, the threat to everything that makes our country great, Donald Trump.
Side note: Stating “Nice try” is being used more and more often when Trump supporters know they have no facts or substantial arguments against a point made by a Democrat or Independent. I read it as “I’m wrong but try to get me to admit it nyahhh. nyahhh, nyahhh.”
Anthony, because she and Kinzinger continue to break ranks and vote with democrats on a slew of items, just like Mitt Romney another RINO. Cheney’s own state wanted her thrown out of the GOP.
The only reason for this was she recognized the problems with Trump. Republicans seem to have zero self-awareness of how stupid they look.
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Wyoming Republican leaders voted …to no longer recognize Rep. Liz Cheney as a member of their party.
The resolution, which does not strip Cheney of any tangible power, passed the Wyoming GOP Central Committee by a narrow vote of 31-29.
The symbolic vote came after roughly nine county Republican parties voted to no longer recognize Cheney, Joey Correnti, chairman of the Carbon County GOP and one of the officials spearheading the effort, estimated. A number of those county central committees passed the resolution with much wider margins than the state committee, with some passing the resolution unanimously.
“The president incited the mob,” she said in an television interview that day. “The president addressed the mob. He lit the flame.”
In the resolution that censured Cheney, the state party without evidence blamed members of the anti-fascist movement (Antifa) and the Black Lives Matter movement for instigating the violence.
Wrong again! You are breaking records! Cheyney voted with Trump 92% of the time and Kinzinger 90%!!!! They should be 2 of your favorite politicians but because you demand undying loyalty from your politicians you choose to banish them no matter what! Very sad!I am just waiting for the derogatory nicknames that they will be given!
Not on the big issues, not when it came to censure and taking away committee leadership.
Doug, the only thing they have done wrong in the eyes of the P.O.T. is support the investigation into 1/6 because they know it will turn up evidence, as if there isn’t enough already, to prove IN A COURT OF LAW that Trump and his crime family were involved in planning and carrying out this attempt to end our democracy.
If you read this comment William, what number does “slew” represent? And please, give us an example of either Cheney or Kinzinger breaking ranks over anything significant with Republicans other than the 1/6 investigation and support for the sleazebag Trump?
And isn’t “breaking ranks” to help arrive at consensus what is needed in a democratic legislature?
I want to point out that I continue questioning William in order to hold his feet to the fire and hopefully make him see Trump and his movement for what they really are: selfish autocrats attempting to control this country in their interests at the expense of “we the people”.
If his faction wins we will suffer under his dictatorship which I believe would attempt to form an international hegemony of dictators to control the commoners of the world in the interests of the elite. Don’t forget he loves dictators.
Anthony you’ll get “crickets” when you corner him with facts….Every single time he praises Trump he post erroneous information …Mostly things that were spoon fed to him from Trump himself or his minions. Again it’s “Trump Good Biden Bad”..If Trump told them he could walk on water they would believe him or make an excuse for him. I will not waste my time anymore. I haven’t seen this kind of brainwashing since Jim Jones and his was on a much smaller scale. I compare it to that they see a pile of manure and lean over and pick out a piece of corn taste it and tells us this is good you should try it
Guy, I’m begging you, please don’t ever respond to my comments again. I’m tired of banging my head against my desk because of your rabid TDS. I would not believe a liberal if I saw one sitting on a block of ice and they told me their a** was cold.
Good points, well argued! I’m being ironic again. But why not prove Guy and ChuckD are wrong by answering my question about Cheney and Kinzinger? I can name many more Republicans who don’t support Trump and think he Is ruining their party. George Will and Steve Schmidt are two who openly despise him and what he is doing to our country with his poisonous politics.
“I would not believe a liberal if I saw one sitting on a block of ice and they told me their a** was cold.” Probably the most truthful thing you’ve ever said on this forum. Try thinking hard on your comment and giving it some self reflection.
How about responding to Anthony? Too difficult?
The Wyoming GOP never mentioned Cheney’s lack of devotion to the Republican Party as the reason for her expulsion, only her lack of devotion to Trump. That makes her a RINO?
How about manning up and defending your cheap shots?
Fred. Those who left the Union and started a war by firing on the United States at Fort Sumter, South Carolina committed an act of treason against the nation.
Texas v. White, holds that the states cannot secede from the union by an act of the state. Stop trying to rewrite history Fred
The Texas v. White decision came after the civil war. Thus, Lincoln is responsible for beating the hell out of people for their aberrant views without legal authority. Thanks Guy for pointing this out.
Texas v. Wright held that states did not have the right to secede. What is your point? By the way, any individual can “secede” from his state by moving to one where he would be more comfortable. Some might prefer a state that loves the Confederate flag over the stars and stripes and has an active Ku Klux Klan.
How many people use the FRED BARNEY name to post here?
Clearly more than one.
See Mazikeen for the current count
I’ve always suspected you were a confederate. Now I know. Your positions on issues of race, gun violence, and police brutality are indicative of that mind frame. Why not move to Mississippi? You might be more comfortable.
There was a civil war in which hundreds of thousands died.
There was the belief that what was joined voluntarily could also be left voluntarily.
The North used conscriptions to kill those who had different views than Lincoln.
As for who started it was the North did by not removing Fort Sumpter from foreign soil.
When crimes committed are the most heinous of any, being the exploitation of children including sexual abuse and sex trafficking, and the continuing build up of evidence in a case is solid and overwhelming, how in the name of God can anyone in good conscience defend people like Ghislaine Maxwell?
I know that any defendant in a criminal trial is assumed to be innocent until they are proven guilty, and I agree with that. I also believe everyone, including Maxwell, is entitled to a fair trial, but regardless of it being their job I just can’t wrap my head around how anyone can be willing to defend obvious child abuse. Consider, in all likelihood, after reviewing the evidence they too believe her to be guilty.
I also wonder who these conscience lacking defense attorneys voted for.
Attorneys who represent people who are charged with the most heinous of crimes are not only representing those people they are representing the legal system. The idea that everyone has a right to their day in court and the presumption of innocence until proven guilty is a cornerstone of the rule of law. If we arbitrarily decide a persons guilt before the evidence has been presented and decide to hang ‘‘em we do not have a legal system we have a vigilante system.
Hooligans, I understand what you are saying and for the most part I agree with you. As indicated, I believe everyone deserves a fair trial and everyone should be presumed innocent until proven guilty. I still take issue is with some of the attorneys who are willing to defend these people. I believe many of these attorneys are in it for the fame and money and are not concerned with being a part of representing the entire legal system. My point was that I question their moral compass.
I know it is a job that someone has to do, I’m just questioning the someone that is willing to do it. I also never felt comfortable with the guy who was willing to swing the ax that lops off someone’s head.
Guilt by association. If you are repulsed by the crime and have prejudged an individual, anyone who comes to their aid is morally suspect in the eyes of some. A lose lose situation. Many attorneys shy away from such cases because of the cost to them personally. Someone has to do it though.
Agreed
Building on your point, we need a trial even when the evidence is overwhelming because it is impossible to set a standard of evidence that would be so overwhelming as to rule no trial is needed. Where would the line be drawn? The defense also attempts to advance mitigating circumstances in favor of more lenient treatment of the defendant. Although, I must say, in the Maxwell case, I wouldn’t want the defense’s job.
Notice parents are not held accountable!
Thanks for confirming what I just said.
Tony, again I agree. I wasn’t questioning the legal system, just the morality of some of these attorneys.
Don’t ask me how the above empty post, short of an apostrophe, ended up on the forum, but regardless it makes more sense than some of Fred’s.
I fully understand your feelings. Maxwell and Epstein and all the perverts who accepted their services are lower than whale s— as we used to say.
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Probably the anti-law and order president. That would be Biden.
Who’s convicting and locking up the 700 Trump insurrectionists? Remind us, how many Trump staff and associates have been convicted of crimes, as well as those he pardoned for a price? I’ve run out of fingers and toes.
No, that would be Trump.
Seems to me Kenneth Truman has a problem with reality, and considers the Daily Gazette to be a biased newspaper because he doesn’t like some of the facts printed in the paper.
Also, consider the fact that we are subjected on a nearly daily basis to the right wing political cartoons of Gary Farval (sp?). They’re hardly objective.
I agree and most of those cartoons make no sense. “Radical left”? If there is a radical party, it’s the GOP right now.
Most Republicans before the emergence of the uncompromising, in your face, tea-party faction, which led directly to POT (Party of Trump) would have been appalled by what their party has become. Keep in mind many people are leaving POT. Those remaining are not true to American values; the flag stands against everything they support: cheating and violence to keep an incompetent scoundrel in power as a dictator, discouraging widespread voting because they know that minorities are mostly Democrats, and putting partisanship before patriotism, for example in trying to stop the investigation into 1/6 by any means possible.
Trump had the greatest successes, for the first time in 70 years we exported more oil than we imported “energy independent”. He had three Mideast peace deals. He secured our southern border. He got prison reform done. He created opportunity zones. He rebuilt our decimated military, under Obama we had warplanes without parts to fix them. I could go on and on.
And each of your talking points would have significant gaps in their credibility.
But we’re tired of showing you and the others that.
I’m not bothering in most instances now. Some people are incapable of dealing with objective truth if it upsets their beliefs and world view.
Great letter John Pagoda. First of all, by today’s standards Lincoln would be considered a moderate so I always chuckle to myself when I hear “Trump is the greatest President since Lincoln”. Secondly….think about it….the R’s have to go all the way back 160 years to find a great President to get Trump that credibility that the R’s are seeking. Poor Ronny Reagan truly got shunned in the process. The current R party is truly unrecognizable and I wear the label of RINO with great pride , so much that I simply left altogether.
Lincoln a moderate! He enslaved Northerners to kill Southerners who thought they had a right to exit by state that they voluntarily joined by state. Using slaves (draftees if you prefer) to kill people with different views is a bit of a strange definition of moderate
Comparing Union draftees to fight the institution of slavery with actual African-American slaves hits a new low.
Fred, were the American draftees who fought to keep the Nazis and fascists off our shores also slaves? I imagine there exist Americans who believe if Hitler had won it would be a better world. Then, everyone could join the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and other white supremacist groups in openly proclaiming the superiority of the white western European “race” and put the subhuman darker races and Slavs in their proper place. Of course the Jews would no longer be a problem at all.
More so in America today, for the time being anyway, than under Nazi rule.
Do you agree? Most men, draftees and enlistees, fought bravely and willingly. Ask any of the few remaining WWII vets how they feel about your characterization of draftees as “slaves”. You have got to be kidding and it’s not at all funny.
Or, does the Nazi ideal world appeal to you?
“Fred, were the American draftees who fought to keep the Nazis and fascists off our shores also slaves?”
Were they free to lead their lives as they saw fit?
Nobody likes war or death but isn’t abolishing slavery and keeping the Union together kind of what has made Lincoln the #1 President in virtually every poll:). Additionally I believe virtually every Trumpster says that Trump is the greatest President since Lincoln! If he ‘s so bad , What significance of that statement even mean????
…and freeing the slaves, although as a man of his time, he supported the move to help and encourage the resettlement of freed slaves in Liberia.
Many of us have come, too slowly, to understand African-Americans are just the same as all humans, same strengths, same foibles. But, a history of wicked treatment including all kinds of discrimination has held them back.
And it was a war, not “killing people.” Good Lord Fred, really!
According to Lincoln the killing of people was for the purpose of keeping the union together.
Go back and read your History books Fred! You are flat out wrong here!
Wrong … point out my mistake
That wasn’t the argument. I am just saying what historians all agree on. I will take your reply as a concession.
Lincoln did start the war but only because he wanted to save the Union and keep it whole.
Doug: You find that to be a reason to kill large number of people – I do not
I don’t have time to give you a lengthy biography on Lincoln. There are numerous books written on Lincoln and it really isn’t an opinion that he was a moderate. I will just read what Wikipedia says and let you do your own research from there. Lincoln , a moderate Republican, had to navigate a contentious array of factions with friends and opponents. Remember the parties of today are the opposite of what they were years and years ago. I know that your side likes to point out that the KKK for example was started by Dem’s and that is correct but now 90% of African Americans are Dem’s so things have been turned upside down. There are numerous other sources on Lincoln and you simply won’t find anyone calling him a conservative. Furthermore common sense would tell you that a conservative would have left slavery alone (to preserve). Yes Lincoln did start the war but only because he wanted to save the Union and keep it whole. You could make a case that he was actually a progressive but I won’t go that far. He really was more of a pragmatist if you really want to give him an even more accurate label. Good Luck with your research and if you find anything that demonstrates Lincoln as a conservative….please share!. Have a good day!
Truman’s letter kinda sums up our dilemma here in America, and around the world. There aren’t two sides. This isn’t a difference of opinion or of a different point of view.
This about a large number of people who put aside facts, put aside reality as it stares them in the face, and insist it’s not. Even his emphasis added (I’m pretty sure the DG doesn’t CAPITALIZE those words that he does) shows how challenging those clarifiers are for him.
They are used because that point needs to made, over, and over, and over again. Trump DOES falsely claim, repeatedly, and has for years long before he claimed Obama wasn’t a natural citizen.
The claims about “herd immunity” have been debunked, at the levels these people want to believe. Herd immunity does exist, even Dr. Fauci states this, but these people just want to be done with what so many of them see as a hoax anyway, that they want to define what herd immunity is.
The Hunter Biden meme has not been proven, nor has any proof been offered, nor has any law enforcement entity expressed any interest in it. And it being pushed by those who believe the aforementioned falsehoods.
Thank you Mr. Truman, for giving us this day an eloquent encapsulation of the misguided mindset we in the reality-based world are having to contend with, while we deal with an infection that’s killed close to a million Americans. Sorry those adjectives and adverbs rub you the wrong way, but maybe you all need to learn a little humility and introspection. But you deny that too.
And what Guy said above.
I wonder why the DOJ is not involved in the Hunter Biden scandal? Could it be that his dad is the President, we have already seen that the FBI brass is mired in the swamp.
Can we reach herd immunity against COVID-19 without a vaccine?
In most cases, herd immunity is not achieved without an effective vaccine. For COVID-19, the percentage of the population that needs to be infected to achieve herd immunity is estimated to be between 70% and 90%, and this is assuming lasting immunity is possible.
From the Frontlines: Understanding Herd Immunityhttps://www.lung.org › blog › understanding-herd-immun…
What scandal? Oh, the one manufactured by the Fox talking heads?
Is Fox still peddling herd immunity by telling people not to get vaccinated?
More Crickets
Crickets
Do not think you’ve scored some kind of victory because I choose not play games with you.
We get it, you don’t want to be a responsible citizen. Thank you for your help.
From the NIH, that’s Fauci’s employer
A Swedish study, published recently in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine, offers some of the first hard figures on this topic, and the findings are quite encouraging [1]. The data show that people without any immunity against COVID-19 were at considerably lower risk of infection and hospitalization when other members of their family had immunity, either from a natural infection or vaccination. In fact, the protective effect on family members went up as the number of immune family members increased.
https://directorsblog.nih.gov/tag/natural-immunity/
John Pagoda it seems your opinion got posted…..The problem you have is that 90% of what Republicans and Trump says is total BS…How can one be objective when the sources of the news give you red meat to chew on that are lies and half truths
I meant Kenneth Truman…..John Pagoda letter was spot on ….Fred I have no idea what you are trying to say
Guy, I too have no idea what Fred is desperately attempting to say. However, that’s not unusual.
Yeah Cynthya, you could ask him why he makes no sense.
Men to not ask women to undertake efforts that they can manage
You could ask
To New Yorkers the city is New York city
“If you go to the city”??? What does THAT mean? Fred, you are incomprehensible.
Guy, In regard to Fred, that makes two of us. Marjorie Taylor Greene said something about a “national divorce” between Democratic and Republican states and a “cooling off” period for Democrats moving to a Republican state before they could vote. Could that be what Fred was referring to? Is she endorsing secession? Why doesn’t the voting ban apply to R’s moving to D states? Apparently she is afraid of the vote in Texas, where many Californians are moving.
How many people do you see moving to NY or Michigan, it’s a great Exodus from Democrat states.
They left NY to go to Texas so that Democrats will outnumber the GOP and take over from old ironsides.
If you go to the city you will find that they are on to something
Meanwhile the “Red” states have the honor of the most poorly educated, the lowest standards of living, the most troubling efforts at controlling elections, the least vaccinated and the most COVID related deaths. And the first three have been that way for decades.
Don’t you think it’d be wise to focus on the problems of your own people?
You have the option of joining them.
As to what I am referring to Goggle American Civil War death count.
I am happy that you found my comment helpful
Lou, I was going to say the same thing.
Yeah, that really clears things up. 🤪
With respect to the Civil War it should be remembered that hundreds of thousands died be cause because the idea that a union voluntarily could be exited by state.
With respect to the Civil War, it should be remembered that hundreds of thousands died because the idea that a union voluntarily joined by state could be excited by state.
Since the idea of reparations for past injustices is now acceptable the losses due to holding unacceptable views should be compensated.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/inflation-is-going-be-so-high-that-the-u-s-fed-will-be-boxed-into-a-corner-says-consultancy/vi-AASgkb8?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
Not one comment about inflation