False fraud claims harm democracy
If you’re skeptical about whether the 2020 election was stolen, or pretending that it was, it would be good to remember what one of the major virtues of democracy is that it gives an actionable voice to us, the people.
This is important, and most of us want this.
When people want to invalidate the legitimate results of an election, even when challenges to it are rejected in the courts, they are muffling the power of the citizens’ voices, their preferences.
If those who didn’t have the most votes take office, then they will no longer have the motivation to keep most of us, their constituents, satisfied.
What the majority wants in an election becomes less relevant. This will be OK if those in office are people we believe support us. But without a reason to cater to the will of those in their districts, you’ll find out how much unaccountable power will change their behavior, and how many of their actions will primarily serve only themselves and those closest to them.
If they’re willing to deny a clean election, this tells you something about what the lust for power does to them.
If you want to put our democratic system at risk, realize you may not only be suppressing the voices of your opposition (majority or minority), but eventually your own voice in future elections, if we will still bother to make pretense of such shams.
Falsely claiming fraud is shortsighted, and most probably eventually against your own interests.
Vic Bobnick
Schenectady
Keep Heggen as Saratoga Co. DA
I urge you to vote for Karen Heggen to keep her as our Saratoga County district attorney. Karen has 29 years of experience prosecuting cases in Saratoga County.
Karen has been an assistant District Attorney (1993-97), Chief Trial Assistant District Attorney (1998-2010), First Assistant District Attorney (2010-Sept. 2014) and District Attorney (Sept. 2014 to present). Since elected in 2014, Karen has achieved a 95% felony conviction rate in County Court.
I have known Karen for over 30 years and I can personally attest to her high moral standard as well as her impeccable integrity and outstanding administrative ability. I ask that you vote for Karen Heggen to keep her as our Saratoga County district attorney.
John H. Ciulla, Jr., Esq.
Mechanicville
The writer is a retired Mechanicville City Court Judge and retired Saratoga County Public Defender for 24 years.
Why do we distrust poll workers now?
I have a question. For years, the voting process was taken at its legal count. But since the Trumpster was in office, all of a sudden, they are not to be trusted.
The people that work the polls have all clean records, are citizens of that community or town or county and of the United States. Why are they all being lumped as crooked or not on the up and up? It isn’t any wonder they are having a hard time filling these positions. They start at 6 a.m. when the polls open and are there until 9 at night then they have to stay until votes are counted or put in sealed bags to go wherever they need to go.
Just a question – why?
Anne Fringo
Middleburgh
The silent majority must send message
Will we close our eyes in November? Kathy Hochul and the Democrats are doing just that.
Commit a vicious attack against a citizen? Attempt to rob and kill a bodega owner? Sucker punch an elderly woman on her way home? What is the penalty?
After being charged with the offenses, they are back on the streets shortly thereafter.
Insane! How does that make you feel? Enough is enough and it is time for the “silent majority” to send a message in November.
Gerald Bubniak
Northville
Muller belongs on bench a long time
Bob Muller successfully prosecuted many serious felony trials before me when he was an assistant district attorney, and I was the Warren County judge.
He also defended just as many serious and complex criminal indictments in my court.
Later, when I was a Supreme Court judge, I continued to have the pleasure of presiding over trials where he appeared as either an attorney for plaintiffs or defendants. It was a ‘pleasure’ because I appreciated seeing the intensity of his efforts that were always aimed at doing the very best for his clients.
I’ve since watched him now as Supreme Court Judge Muller, still giving his all and doing his best to afford everyone their day in court. I’ve read many of his decisions that have dealt with important issues affecting Lake George and the Adirondacks, and although I may not have always completely agreed with him, it was clear he examined the legal issues from every conceivable angle and rendered his decisions based on the rule of law. That’s what good judges do.
Re-electing Judge Muller promises us many more years as a Supreme Court judge. Let’s keep him on the bench as long as we can.
G. Thomas Moynihan
Cleverdale
The writer is a retired state Supreme Court judge.
Gazette failed to cover Nobel prizes
I was quite disappointed in the lack of overage by The Gazette on the recent Nobel awards, particularly in the fields of science and literature. Fortunately, the NPR news cycles on WMHT-FM provided a brief synopsis of them daily. The print media seems to have been “aced” by “old-fashioned” radio coverage.
Elinor Arendt
Schenectady
Campaign flyer failed to ID author
This letter pertains to the recent political flyer I received in the mail.
The political flyer referred to Joe Mastroianni. Nowhere in the flyer could I find who mailed this.
For me, Joe Mastroianni apparently denies events that really happened.
For this reason, I will not be voting for him. My name is John Drislane and I approve this message.
John E. Drislane
Schenectady
Need more officials to act like DeSantis
On Saturday, Oct. 22, I was in downtown Gloversville, and I saw the most amazing thing. Mayor Vince DeSantis was busy planting daffodil bulbs at the Beekman intersection.
There were no cameras, no media, no campaign manager, just Vince planting bulbs that will bloom next spring.
Imagine if all our elected officials and candidates thought this way. Doing things for our community that are not staged and are not politically motivated. Perhaps they should all visit Mr. DeSantis and get a civics lesson.
If you are ever wondering how a civic leader is supposed to behave, remember this story.
We have a lot of people who are going to want our votes on Nov. 8.
Ask yourself how many have the kind of sprite that Mayor DeSantis has. Then ask yourself why not. Keep up the good work Mayor DeSantis.
Jim Novotny Sr.
Gloversville
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Vic well said let the real voice of the people be heard. Stop all the extended election voting, drop boxes, corrupt software used by Dominion voting machines. make sure the votes are not stopped from being counted on election night. The pendulum swings both ways and we must find the center again.
Mr Brandon can you cite any proof on your claims om Dominion voting machines …Why are drop boxes bad they have been around for years? If you could cite your proof of voter fraud you claim happened it would be appreciated. I’ve researched those claims and have found the 61 courts of law said it never happened. I’m interested where you got your information from. Give it some thought and get back to me when you can.
Dominion machines coded by CCP companies. Communist China is coding the election software for the USA. What could possibly go wrong with that.
Mr Brandon can you cite your source on that?
Take it up with the courts then. You’re just regurgitating something you heard, from a less-than-reliable source. It’s been proven many times by the best minds in computer science this country has and no, the coding is not done in China.
It simply isn’t. Look it up.
Did you look up your ‘Al Gore invented the internet’ thing? Or do you keep that BS ready too, just in case you need to blurt out another mindless accusation?
“These conspiracy theories were further discredited by hand recounts of the ballots cast in the 2020 presidential elections in Georgia and Wisconsin; the hand recounts in these states found that Dominion voting machines had accurately tabulated votes, that any error in the initial tabulation was human error, and that Biden had defeated Trump in both battleground states.”
– wikipedia, Dominion_Voting_Systems
So how did the down ballot candidates win, but the presidency vote was fraudulent? Those spreading that lie accept THEIR win! LGB is drinking the Kool Aid from Mango Mussolini. So sad that you believe the most lying president in history.
Chris Krebs, Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency in the US Department of Homeland Security from 2018, claims this was the CLEANEST election in our history.
The most lying President in history is Biden, he tells a dozen lies a day. The other day he said gas was $5.15 when he took office.
Is that an opinion or a fact? If you believe it’s a fact …Please cite your source
He heard Trump accused of that so, you know, “I’m rubber, you’re glue!”.
How are you go I even took it from Communist news network for you.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/10/28/politics/fact-check-biden-gas-prices/index.html
That would be called hyperbole, like saying Joe Biden “tells a dozen lies a day”, or any of the other bazillion hyperbolic things you and your tribe say…every day.
So what?
From the Washington Post, May 28, 2022:
The federal government has found no evidence that flaws in Dominion voting machines have ever been exploited, including in the 2020 election, according to the executive director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.
You can read the entire article if you want all the details.
Anthony ….you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. This is why I don’t waste my time citing the factual information. I find it easier just to ask them where they got their data.
Guy, I have to agree. They are able to shut their minds down completely when solid evidence proves them wrong. Yet they post beliefs they got from posts that they read somewhere and we are supposed to accept that as being as valid as reports from real news outlets and audiovisual evidence in real time.
Oxford English language dictionary definition of a cult:
A cult is a group or movement held together by a shared commitment to a charismatic leader or ideology. It has a belief system that has the answers to all of life’s questions and offers a special solution to be gained only by following the leader’s rules.
Five consequences of being in a cult, from Google:
Breakdown of law and order.
Violence and social instability.
Disruption of academic activities.
Disorientation of societal values.
Premature death of youths who are cult members/innocent victims.
Drug addiction and related health problems.
Anthony, this is a perfect description of democrat run cities.
It is not deniable, yet you will deny it.
Breakdown of law and order.
Violence and social instability.
Disruption of academic activities.
Disorientation of societal values.
Premature death of youths who are cult members/innocent victims.
Drug addiction and related health problems.
Mr Igna ….Neener Neener Neener …I’m rubber and you’re glue ?
IGP, your source for the list that is the same as mine, but attributes the outcomes to a different cause? Or is Guy right: “I’m rubber and you’re glue.” Good grief Ignatius Brown!
Attempt to be original and not just use information of those who disagree with you by twisting it around. Who do you think you are? Donald J. Trump?
That’s ok Mr. Santo. I’ve got my copy of “2000 Mules” for the truth!
Oops, looks like the publisher has recalled all copies for ‘unspecified factual errors’. Wonder how much of a rewrite they’ll need before being rereleased.
I’ll bet the mules had calves the size of cantaloupes and noses as long as Pinnochio’s from carrying such a heavy burden of falsehoods.
84 fraudulent Republican electors now under investigation. That’s the truth, it’s on the DoJ docket, the fraudulent letters of certification are real, the plans for it are also documented.
That’s called proof of election fraud.
Where’s yours?
Chuck, when referring to a previous post it is customary and polite to reference the author of said post so that one can decipher your critical thoughts more easily. You could have been replying to several different people.+
Myself, I never said republicans were innocent of such activity. Not once. I did say all elections are tampered with, and I stand by that.
But has the alleged tampering ever been enough to affect the outcome of the election? The answer is No! Of course, some individuals will cheat as was the case with several people in Florida’s “The Villages” who voted in Florida and their home states, but not enough to affect the outcome. The problem is that a defeated candidate, Donald Trump, refuses to accept the fact of his defeat. He lost by a margin in the popular and electoral vote that is impossible to overcome by allegations of cheating. That is what is causing the bitterness in American politics today. To end this poison, America must acknowledge its source. Please, let’s return political debate to a discussion of the best ways to deal with the many economic , political, and social problems that face us.
All your suggestions would do is make it harder for people to vote, particularly marginalized people who live in densely populated urban areas and must wait in long lines to vote. There was a time when Republicans favored mail in voting and encouraged it. They did an about face as it became clear that large voter turn out hurt them and helped Democrats, but that is what open and air elections are all about, encouraging as many as possible to vote and making it convenient to do so. That is how the will of the people is determined. Your comment about corrupt software used by Dominion is a reflection of ignorance or a lie. Finally:
No major problems with ballot drop boxes in 2020, AP finds
By ANTHONY IZAGUIRRE and CHRISTINA A. CASSIDY
July 17, 2022
FILE – A voter submits a ballot in an official drop box during early voting in Athens, Ga., on Oct. 19, 2020. The widespread use of absentee ballot drop boxes during the 2020 election was largely trouble-free, contrary to claims made by former President Donald Trump and his Republican allies. An Associated Press survey of state election officials across the U.S. revealed no problems that could have affected the results, including from fraud, vandalism or theft. (AP Photo/John Bazemore, File)
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FILE – A voter submits a ballot in an official drop box during early voting in Athens, Ga., on Oct. 19, 2020. The widespread use of absentee ballot drop boxes during the 2020 election was largely trouble-free, contrary to claims made by former President Donald Trump and his Republican allies. An Associated Press survey of state election officials across the U.S. revealed no problems that could have affected the results, including from fraud, vandalism or theft. (AP Photo/John Bazemore, File)
ATLANTA (AP) — The expanded use of drop boxes for mailed ballots during the 2020 election did not lead to any widespread problems, according to an Associated Press survey of state election officials across the U.S. that revealed no cases of fraud, vandalism or theft that could have affected the results.
This is the kind of lie that reflects the cultish behavior outlined above. This Republican can’t accept the word of police and detectives on the scene so he makes something up so that the attack on Pelosi suits his worldview and ideology, from Media-ite (0ctober 31, 2020):
“Rep. Clay Higgins (R-LA) deleted a tweet spreading a nasty conspiracy theory in the aftermath of the brutal attack of Paul Pelosi, the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA).
On Sunday, Higgins tweeted what appears to be a doctored pic of Pelosi covering her eyes with one of them looking bruised. This was accommodated by Higgins writing “That moment you realize the nudist hippie male prostitute LSD guy was the reason your husband didn’t make it to your fundraiser.”
It is easy to find the full story on line.
John E. Drislane, Schenectady . In regards to your inquiry about not seeing any reference to who sent you a flyer regarding Joe Mastroianni. I suggest you talk to the Angelo Santabarbara camp. Instead of discussing the issues, he would rather place false information into the hands of voters and run a negative campaign. This not the first time he has done this.
cfoote – Im a conservative and I’m voting for Angelo. Angelo, in my opinion, is what a politican should be. He walks the walk, which is rare in politics and goes the extra mile for the people he represents. I’ve received negative literature from both candidates so it’s not one sided. His opponent knocked on my door and I had a brief conversation with him. He seems like a nice guy but there’s no reason for me to vote out a guy who puts the time in for his constituents. Good luck.
I wanted to reply as well, and I agree. Santabarbara is a politician’s politician, meant in the most respectful way. He deserves to win.
I am with Mr. Flynn and ChuckD on this one. It actually feels good to agree on something!
Odd, and a bit disturbing:
Seems like ever since our favorite local paper gave their blessing to Elise! for reelection, every article I scroll through here in the web version features a a large image of Elise!’s grinning mug and the message “Make New York Red” right in the middle of the article. Every article.
Glad to see the DG normalizing our new MAGA America.
Would you have a problem if they had Castelli’s mug grinning instead?
Mr. Flynn, No sir. In fact he would be praising the Gazette for it’s outstanding commitment to “oh the children”.
Of course he would. He wants the local paper to be biased towards his political leanings but he’ll tell you otherwise. Im sure the DG will endorse a few candidates that vote differently than you and I, should we start bashing them if that happens? I guess thats how the game is played, Im not 100% for sure.
I am not sure what IGP by “oh the children” but is ChuckD not entitled to his opinion? A newspaper endorsing a candidate is open to criticism and a request to justify the endorsement.
Mr. Flynn, we all would like our local newspaper to side with us in their endorsement of candidates. We should all be willing to participate in a discussion of why we support the candidates we do. What is wrong with that?
If a person thinks an endorsement of a particular candidate is dangerous because that candidate questions the validity of elections if her side doesn’t win, is that not an issue worthy of discussion?
Does it trouble you that Stefanik believes, contrary to all evidence, that Trump won in 2020?
I am not sure what IGP means…
Anthony, “oh the children” is the well-used rallying cry, or, more accurately, the sob, of the progressive leftist bleeding heart, usually accompanied by hand wringing and calls to blame trump or any other handy republican.
It is the excuse, when there is no other, for any and all liberal interfering with people’s lives because “oh the children!” It is equivalent to libs calling people racists strictly because they know O’Bama is a full-fledged idiot.
In reference to my reply to you earlier post – using your own words, I am merely pointing out what I see as hypocrisy.
All of which you pulled out of your…magical hat.
You mean interfering in people’s lives by outlawing abortions or making it illegal for families to work with doctors to deal with children born with ambiguous gender? Oh, I thought that was the Republicans.
Opinion:
I helped run the ‘Fire Pelosi’ effort. Our toxic politics goes too far.
A former communications director for the Republican National Committee, Doug Heye confessed that “the original sin begins with us.” He recalled how they vilified Barack Obama, questioned his religion, his patriotism, and his citizenship. There were overtly racist cartoons and jokes about his lineage.
“The old ‘not one of us’ racist trope remained,” he said. When Donald Trump came among, things got worse, he recalled.
“It should remain an indelible stain on the soul of a party that continues to support Trump, whether out of opportunity or fear,” wrote Heye.
He too noted some of the hand full of examples of violence from the left, but as the New America think tank found last year, since Sept. 11, 2001, far-right terrorists had killed 122 people in the United States. Far-left people have killed 1 person. Even in the case of the attack on Justice Brett Kavanaugh, the man called the police on himself.
Another study, from the Center for Strategic and International Studies, revealed that there have been 267 plots or attacks from the right. There were just 66 from the left. Meanwhile, a Washington Post-University of Maryland survey from Jan. 2022 cited 40 percent of Republicans who said that it’s justifiable to use violence against the government. Only 23 percent of Democrats agree to that. There is no “two sides” to the issue, he argued.
Doug Heye, The Washington Post, 10/31/2022
Maybe this will help with your DG bashing. Will you be taking your ball and going home? “The Daily Gazette presents both right and left-leaning perspectives with a slight edge to the left. In general, local news is least biased and national news/opinions lean slightly left based on sourcing from the NYT.” It doesnt say liberal news only.
And magically your hatred of the NYT is gone.
The man who broke into the home of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and attacked her husband with a hammer told authorities he planned on breaking her kneecaps and viewed her as “the leader of the pack” of lies told by the Democratic Party, according to court documents.
The Justice Department charged David DePape with the attempted kidnapping of a federal officer and assault of the immediate family member of a federal officer on Monday afternoon. San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins also announced Monday that her office would file charges against DePape that included attempted murder, residential burglary, assault with a deadly weapon, elder abuse, threats to a public official and false imprisonment of an elder. DePape is scheduled to be arraigned on Tuesday.
-Yahoo News
I have three questions, first question is why does the drone footage of the house show the glass being broken from inside out? Second question why was it reported Paul Pelosi in his call to the police knew the guy‘s name and said he was a friend? And finally who let the police in the front door? I’m sure that I will get some great answers from the other side, nothing based in fact, just opinion of how I am hateful against them. One, two, three, go!
No Bill. We all know you’re a first class investigator, asking the tough questions, checking all the angles. Good to know you’re on top of it.
During a segment on his livestream show, Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk slammed news outlets and journalists who say the attack on Nancy Pelosi’s husband this weekend is a sign that right-wing rhetoric is sparking real-world violence, saying “of course” Republicans should reject Democrats’ attempts to link them to the attack.
“Why is the conservative movement to blame for gay schizophrenic nudists that are hemp jewelry maker breaking into someone’s home — or maybe not breaking into someone’s home. Why are we to blame for that exactly,” Kirk said. “And why is he still in jail? Why has he not been bailed out? And by the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out … bail him out, and then go ask him some questions.”
Kirk’s claim that Paul Pelosi’s attacker, Dave DePape, is gay likely came from an article posted, then deleted, by Elon Musk that claimed without evidence that DePape had previously attended a gay nightclub before the attack.
-Skye Palma, Rawstory
Because by now we know how MAGA feels about Hitler and democracies…
(And a guest appearance by the Gazette’s choice!)
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The New York Times reported in June (2022), “Carl P. Paladino, a Republican running for a House seat in Western New York, praised Adolf Hitler last year for inspiring his followers, describing the fascist dictator as ‘the kind of leader we need today.’ Mr. Paladino did not specifically condone Hitler’s actions in his remarks, which he made in a 2021 radio interview that was unearthed on Thursday. But he said he was impressed by how the German leader and head of the Nazi Party ‘aroused the crowd’ in his speeches and suggested that Republicans in New York and Washington ought to emulate his approach.”
“On the eve of the NY primary, Elise Stefanik held a telephone rally for controversial GOP candidate Carl Paladino, per source. In another sign of Stefanik’s investment in the race, 2 aides from her political operation are on the ground advising Paladino on comms/strategy,” CNN’s Melanie Zanona reported,
“Stefanik endorsed Paladino, who has long history of controversial remarks, early on,” Zanona explained. “And she has continued to not only stand by him, but also stump for him — even after he most recently suggested AG Merrick Garland should be ‘executed.’ (He later said he was being facetious.)”
After an abrupt recall and a two-month delay – along with the threat of possible legal action – the election denial book 2,000 Mules has reached bookstores, though with a few significant changes.
“I am going to reveal the names of several of these nonprofit stash houses in my book ‘2000 Mules,'” D’Souza tweeted in July.
Most notably, a passage in the recalled version of the book that accused specific, named nonprofit organizations of involvement in illegal “ballot trafficking” has been rewritten, softening certain claims and outright removing the names of the groups. Separately, sections of the book that purported to link election fraud to antifa and the Black Lives Matter movement have also been deleted.
2,000 Mules is based on the film of the same name, which alleges a vast conspiracy between unnamed left-wing nonprofit groups and paid ballot “mules” to stuff vote-by-mail dropboxes and steal the 2020 election. Law enforcement officials and fact-checkers have thoroughly discredited the film’s allegations, and the filmmakers have declined to make key evidence for their central claims public.
– NPR, October 25, 2022
This one’s for you, DG Eds.:
Tim Miller, a former spokesman for the Republican National Committee, conducted an interview with Vox’s Sean Illing this week in which he dished dirt about some of his former allies.
When Illing asked Miller who among current Republicans best embodies the party’s “abject nihilism or cynicism,” he didn’t hesitate to name Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-NY), a formerly moderate Republican who become an ultra-MAGA hardliner after former President Donald Trump’s election.
“She flips on a dime,” Miller tells Illing. “And in the first impeachment becomes Trump’s most rabid defender with the most absurd defenses. She was like a foreign policy neocon Republican who would’ve been very much ‘arm the Ukrainians against the Russians,’ flips on it, sides with Trump against Zelenskyy. And is now literally indistinguishable from a MAGA troll.”
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And as an added bonus for our education-averse MAGA friends:
noun: nihilism (ni·hil·ism)
– The rejection of all religious and moral principles, in the belief that life is meaningless.
– Philosophy:
extreme skepticism maintaining that nothing in the world has a real existence.
– Historical:
the doctrine of an extreme Russian revolutionary party c. 1900 which found nothing to approve of in the established social order.
And the gold medal for copying and pasting propaganda goes to……….Drumroll……………Chuck D. Congrats sir.
Keep dancin’, MAGA.
For a second when you said Moderate and flips on a dime for sure I thought you were talking about Kristen Gillibrand.
I didn’t say it, Sherlock.
I reported what Tim Miller, a former spokesman for the Republican National Committee said.
Let’s consider an improbable scenario. What if, as is obviously the case, Donald Trump announced tomorrow that he did lose the 2020 election and that Biden, the winner, is the legitimate president of the United States.
Imagine how unfounded the claims of some candidates running for office today would sound, i.e. that anything but their victory would mean the election was rigged.
Imagine the citizens of the United States again believing in the legitimacy of our elections at every level.
Imagine getting back to a discussion of problems that face our world and country and proposals to solve them, ideas that would make our country and world safer and more prosperous.
Speaking for myself, I would be willing to stop investigating all crimes Trump may or may not have committed if he also promised to stay out of politics and lead a quiet private life.
It is late and I am retiring for the night but would love to hear from both sides of the spectrum. What do you think?
Anthony, here are my thoughts, if you want to call them that, from the other side:
“Let’s consider an improbable scenario. What if, as is obviously the case, Donald Trump announced tomorrow that he did lose the 2020 election and that Biden, the winner, is the legitimate president of the United States.”
I wish he would, to be honest.
“Imagine how unfounded the claims of some candidates running for office today would sound, i.e. that anything but their victory would mean the election was rigged.”
Probably not much different than normal outlandish claims made by politicians. Elections are rigged, in my opinion.
“Imagine the citizens of the United States again believing in the legitimacy of our elections at every level.”
I cannot stress how much I would like this. But, only in person voting, after presenting a legitimate ID and having machines that cannot be compromised would be a requirement. Unfortunately, there is not a computer system that can’t be hacked and US elections affect the entire world, unfortunately. So, especially considering voting machine software from an unfriendly country is or was, being used, I do not get a good feeling of fairness in any election.
“Imagine getting back to a discussion of problems that face our world and country and proposals to solve them, ideas that would make our country and world safer and more prosperous.”
I fully support this happening. No one party or school of thought is right about everything.
Speaking for myself, I would be willing to stop investigating all crimes Trump may or may not have committed if he also promised to stay out of politics and lead a quiet private life.
Yes, I agree, with the exception that he should not be above the law and if he did do the things he is accused of he should face the consequences. If he would shut up, I wouldn’t mind that.
It is late and I am retiring for the night but would love to hear from both sides of the spectrum. What do you think?
I find your response thoughtful and relevant. I do have a comment on one of your points. You post ” Unfortunately, there is not a computer system that can’t be hacked and US elections affect the entire world.” Does this mean it is impossible to have a fair election? If that is what you mean, I disagree. Court cases and recounts and safeguards built into election machines result in very accurate election results. This has been shown to be the case time and time again. Perhaps each voter should fill out a paper ballot in addition to the ballots that are machine-scanned in NYS elections. It is laborious, but we could check paper ballots through manual count when the machine results are questioned. Representatives of each party would need to witness such recounts. Though I think they are unnecessary, I wouldn’t fight a requirement for voter I.D.s in NYS.
I have always learned to take what someone say and insert the opposing view.
Regarding Hitler: A person / government had an idea to remove weapons from the people. Then they decided to blame a particular race for all the problems of the country, initiated a group of people to go into the streets and create chaos. Once chaos was created and the people cried out for help because they had no way to protect themselves weapons were confiscated. Person/ government said we will help our special police force will take care of it. The ending was genocide by a man named Hitter and his SS.
Today: relentless attack on second amendment. Blame people who are white for all the woes of the country. Teach the children CRT and force values about lifestyles that conflict with how parents teach THEIR children. The country will not be fixed unless we divide and use identity politics. Antifa, LGBQT, and defund police. Govenernment gets involved in censorship through social media to control the narrative. They censor and identify people who speak out against the opposing party. A government police force arresting citizens for speaking out and develop a second enforcement agency and hire 85,000 agents that are armed. While leaving our borders unprotected.
So tell me again how the republicans are the Hitlers of the world.
I am not a republican or a democrat. I vote for people who base their decisions on our constitution.
Let’sgoBrandon,that’s an excellent and totally truthful response I’m sure they’re going to twist it and throw in January 6 and President Trump, how can they not, that’s all they talk about.
Bill I have watched our country decline since the 1980’s when we gave up manufacturing. I have always said since Kennedy assassination that organized crime took over our government. The radicals were placed in our education system and the cancer has grown from that. As with any criminal syndicate the organization gets too big and crumbles. Rhino’s , Dino’s , republicans, democrats are just names. We as a country had morals and sense of right and wrong. As a country we have our blemishes and worts. Once identified we changed to become better.
I watch the self proclaimed mayors of DG comment section condemning anyone or anything that opposes their views. I used my screen name to make a point of how triggered they get by a slogan. I truly hope our country finds our center and can live in a country based on our constitution.
Do you 2 guys get together and compare tin foil hats?
Another hilarious response from BM: “Let’sgoBrandon,that’s an excellent and totally truthful response I’m sure they’re going to twist it and throw in January 6 and President Trump, how can they not, that’s all they talk about.”
As I said before, the man must think he can see the future as he knows how those with a different opinion will respond and twist F—Joe Biden’s words.
BM calls FJB’s response “totally truthful.”
How many lies are contained in this one paragraph?:
“Today: relentless attack on second amendment. Blame people who are white for all the woes of the country. Teach the children CRT and force values about lifestyles that conflict with how parents teach THEIR children. The country will not be fixed unless we divide and use identity politics. Antifa, LGBQT, and defund police. Govenernment gets involved in censorship through social media to control the narrative. They censor and identify people who speak out against the opposing party. A government police force arresting citizens for speaking out and develop a second enforcement agency and hire 85,000 agents that are armed. While leaving our borders unprotected.”:
Calls for gun safety legislation and the banning of assault rifles do not constitute “relentless attacks on the second amendment.”
No one is “blaming white people for all the woes of our country.” That is the kind of hate filled erroneous comment that is one of the causes for polarization in our country.
CRT is not being taught in our public schools.
Government is not engaging in censorship “to control the narrative.” Such a charge must be supported by evidence to be credible.
There is no government police force “arresting people for speaking out.”
The problem, F—Joe Brandon, what you really call yourself, is that everything you posted above is conjecture and falsehoods. CRT is not taught in our public schools. The history of slavery and our treatment of native Americans is taught as it is part of our history.
Another problem, for me, is that I don’t know what you are trying to say in much of the post.
Finally, “condemn” is a great exaggeration of what people posting different points of view or pointing out lies are doing. This kind of hypersensitivity often accompanies extreme political stands, common among those who favor an authoritarian government, seeing it as the only way to force all to accept their idea of the perfect government, culture, and society. People, for example, who want to limit medical choices for individuals who think differently than they do, people who believe we should have a state endorsed religion, that their is no room for debate and a one-party political system dominated by one man is the way to accomplish their goals.
Anthony…..What I found hilariously funny was Marinac dissecting The Paul Pelosi crime scene looking for abnormalities…..The Orange sickness is real
I didn’t bother responding because ChuckD covered that absolutely insane “off the wall” post.
Lestgobrandon, this is exactly how I and millions of others view it. Good post.